HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray: The Coming Format War

03-10-2005 15:41 | 6334 views  |  Colin Polonowski  |  Show Backlinks  |  Other "Next Generation Formats" Content

This time next year, we could be seeing the winner of the brewing format clash between the two mooted replacements for DVD - the suitably titled HD-DVD, backed by Toshiba, Microsoft, NEC and Sanyo; and the slightly more esoteric Blu-Ray with the support of Sony, Hitachi, Samsung, Philips, Apple, LG, Dell, HP, Sharp, and Panasonic.

Much like the VHS/Beta divide of the early 1980's this battle will have one winner and one loser - there is unlikely to be a middle ground as consumers will not support two different formats and given the inherent differences in the technologies, cross-compatibility is unlikely to happen in the short term if at all.

So who would I put my money on? There are a number of major factors to consider - the studios backing each format, the likelihood of the technology being accepted at all and of course which one gets into homes first. One thing to never underestimate is the small but dedicated early adopters market - it's this which could have the biggest effect on which DVD replacement succeeds.

Round One - The Studios

There are six major studios pledging their support for either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. In the HD corner we have Warner and Universal; while Blu-Ray has the heavyweight backing of Sony (Columbia), Disney and Fox - all massive players in the movie world. Paramount have recently announced their intention to support both formats - although how long they'll provide dual releases is anyone's guess.

Round Two - The Hardware

Hardware quality is likely to be a strong contributing factor to format acceptance. While there's little doubt that Toshiba, NEC and Sanyo have put out some stonking kit in their time, the bigger names are in the Blu-Ray camp - Sony have got a strong reputation and along with the likes of Panasonic and Sharp they're set to provide some truly remarkable hardware.

Round Three - The Consoles

I don't think any techno-geeks can have missed the coming release of two huge next-generation games consoles. November 2005 will see the Microsoft X-Box 360 hit store shelves and there is some speculation as to whether it will sport a HD-DVD to replace the DVD technology in their original console - we do know that DVD is the format of choice for now but sometime next year we could be seeing an update to the console's hardware. Of course, Sony's own PlayStation 3 is due next year and one of its main selling points is the expected Blu-Ray drive - making it one of the first consumer products to feature the technology. Could it be video games that decide what format we'll be watching films on in years to come?

Round Four - Release Dates

The US launch of HD-DVD has just been put back to early 2006 meaning the gap between launch is going to be shorter than expected. However, the Japanese pre-Christmas 2005 launch is still on target giving HD-DVD an early start over its competitor. Blu-Ray is expected to appear in spring 2006 - maybe hanging onto the coat tales and riding the publicity wave of the PS3 if it hits the market as expected. We fully expect both hardware launches to be accompanied by significant software and movie support and Warner in particular have thrown quite a significant weight to the HD-DVD camp with a number of both classic and recent titles helping give the format a running start.

Who will win?

If I was a betting man, I'd have to put my money behind Blu-Ray - mainly because it's the format that offers more in almost every way. The main selling point for HD-DVD is it's DVD heritage, but rather than be tied to what is already becoming an aging technology Blu-Ray offers more in terms of support and backing making it the sensible choice.

Paramount's semi-defection must have been quite a blow to Toshiba's confidence that they can make HD-DVD a resounding success and it’s in consumer’s interest for one format to dominate early on to reduce the need for more than one type of hardware in our AV racks.

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#1 Posted: 03-10-2005 15:46
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Although HD-DVD might get off to the better start, in the long-run Blu-Ray will definitely become the format of choice.
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#2 Posted: 03-10-2005 17:00
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I'm going to back BluRay. I'd rather put my faith in the technologically superior format, and in pure mathematical terms I suspect that more titles that I am interested in will be released on that format than HD-DVD. I can't deny, though, that HD-DVD will have a "brand recognition" aspect to it, as the naming convention represents a logical next step onward from DVD, whereas BluRay just seems to come out of the blue.
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#3 Posted: 03-10-2005 18:29
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PS3 will probably decide it, as there are too many sheep that'll just stick with that just because they bought a PS1 and a PS2.
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#4 Posted: 03-10-2005 19:06
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whereas BluRay just seems to come out of the blue

Does anyone else spot the pun? :D
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#5 Posted: 03-10-2005 19:13
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Does anyone else spot the pun?

And I hang my head in shame for coming up, completely unintentionally, with such a bloody awful one. :p
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#6 Posted: 03-10-2005 22:11
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My DVD players are all bundled inside my PS2 and my Apple Macs, so it looks like I'll default into the Blu-Ray camp when next I upgrade my Mac or buy a PS3... It's a shame though, most of my fave DVDs are Warner releases... Although I imagine studios will just end up supporting both formats or one format will just be killed off early... is anybody else betting some iTunes like service will come along and slaughter the both of them in a few years??? :rolleyes:
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#7 Posted: 04-10-2005 09:55
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With all this hype from Sony about their PS3's Blu-ray drive,it's easy to forget just how useless the PS2 is compared to a stand alone DVD player.I'd rather have a dedicated games console,which is why I'll be waiting for the Nintendo Revolution.
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#8 Posted: 04-10-2005 19:35
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in response to tokyomonkey, if you get the official RGB cable and use DVD region X, you can watch DVDs in RGB and full colour, and the quality is very good imho.

And i think if I had to, i'd back blu-ray, major reason being it can support upto 50gb on a dual-layer disc...
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#9 Posted: 05-10-2005 10:30
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I'm still happy with DVD. I'll just wait for the smoke to clear... Not to mention all the BS with DRM and nobbling devices...
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#10 Posted: 05-10-2005 12:37
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I'm going to back BluRay. I'd rather put my faith in the technologically superior form

Hmm, yes. So you bought Betamax then?
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#11 Posted: 05-10-2005 15:54
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Hmm, yes. So you bought Betamax then?

If I'd been old enough at the time, I probably would have. However, I wasn't born until 1983 so I really didn't have much of a head for technology at that point. :D
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#12 Posted: 05-10-2005 17:18
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Frankly guys, from inside the industry, albeit in a niche sector, Not Fluffy's comments on a video equivalent to iTunes is on the money - even with this format war, Sony's R&D boffins are into the third generation of proprietary file formats encoded to allow downloads but not ripping or moving to other machines. In the long run, that's where the wider market is expected to go - actually owning content in various forms is expected to remain a specialist market for the hardcore, rather than the mass format DVD became.

However, Colin's right to remind us of previous conflicts and the various forces involved - the most unexpected things turn out to be the last left standing.
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#13 Posted: 05-10-2005 18:18
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I'm pretty ignorant about all this - I suspect I'm finally reaching an age where new technology is more daunting than exciting - but my main concern is whether the hardware will be backwards-compatible with DVD.

There's no way I'm going to be replacing all my 17 trillion DVDs with either of the new formats. I absolutely dread starting all over again - and probably waiting another 7 years for White Heat to be released in the latest format.

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#14 Posted: 05-10-2005 18:35
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I may be wrong, but I think both formats are backwards-compatible with DVD.
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#15 Posted: 06-10-2005 10:46
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About the console thing - PS2 with RGB is OK but Xbox with RGB is better and you dont get layer transitions either...sold my Xbox a while ago as Im gonna get one of those shiny new 360's and plug it into my DTS system :)
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#16 Posted: 06-10-2005 20:57
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I don't think Blu-Ray is backwards-compatible, Mike. HD-DVD should be, though.
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#17 Posted: 06-10-2005 21:04
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http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Section-13631/Index.html

"Can Blu-ray Disc products play DVD and CD?
Although this is not a requirement of the Blu-ray Disc format, it is very likely that all Blu-ray Disc products will play their DVD and CD counterpart formats. Compare this to the ability of today's DVD players to play CDs. Most companies have developed laser components and pickup units being able to read CD, DVD and BD."
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#18 Posted: 07-10-2005 09:55
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One thing people are forgetting though is cost. The Chinese are backing HD-DVD and when DVD really took off it was all down to the sub-100 pound DVD machines from China. If the same happens for DVD then stand aside Blu-Ray.
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#19 Posted: 07-10-2005 12:03
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Im going to back off and let the studios fight it out and in a few years time might upgrade from DVD. But i know a few silly people that are already planning to buy a blu ray disc player because they think its a superior format

(and Betamax was far superior to VHS and look how that turned out)
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#20 Posted: 07-10-2005 13:51
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One more thing - how can people say that Blu-ray is the superior format. Both formats use the same codecs for audio and video. True, you could say that because of Blu-Ray's theoretical higher capacity that it would need less compression, but I doubt that this will be visible. Given that a HD picture is 4 times the resolution of a DVD but the H.264 codec is 4 times better than MPEG-2 then you could get HD movies even on a DVD. HD-DVD will have more than enough space on a 30GB dual layer disc.
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#21 Posted: 08-10-2005 16:32
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And Blu-Ray is about to win: watch the studios reshuffling their cards, realligning and repartitioning thier support.

Good.
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#22 Posted: 08-10-2005 22:07
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Personally, if it was up to me, I'd back whichever was going to be the most durable and longlasting, not prone to delamination and crap like that... I have 20+ year old CDs that I could rip in secure mode with zero errors. I take care of my stuff, but I've had DVDs die on me, and that fails to impress me. Going up the next level to something even more volatile isn't that appealing...
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#23 Posted: 09-10-2005 15:34
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The four main factors that are apparent to me that might determine the success of either format are a) the price, b) the marketing, c) studio backing and d) the technology.

Now I heard somewhere that HD-DVD will be cheaper than Blu Ray which will automatically give it an advantage. Secondly it has an earlier launch and if marketed right it will garner a sufficiant number of early adoptees into the HD-DVD camp. Although Blu Ray is more technologically advanced, will the consumers be able to appreciate the technological advantage given over the price? I don't think so.

And if all this does happen, the studios will probably fall in and switch sides, leaving Blu Ray in the lurch.

However, one thing that could tilt the scales in Sony's favour is the use of Blu Ray in its new PS3, which will mean that every PS3 owner will have a Blu Ray drive and in this market, whoever grows in market share quickest, wins.

So I don't know. If it wasn't for the PS3 i'd side with HD-DVD but with that and the studios backing which will affect consumer confidence, it's difficult to say.
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#24 Posted: 17-10-2005 12:15
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I would agree Colin but I have two things to say:

DVD-Audio AND SACD
DVD minus R AND DVD plus R

I can easily see dual players this time next year :mad:
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#25 Posted: 17-10-2005 12:18
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Isn't Blue-Ray the all round better format? HD-DVD uses out of date red lasers right?

In practical terms what is different? Both support the same resolutions right?
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